"Car Vs. Driver played with Scout more than any other band during its existence, probably because our bass player was the older brother of their drummer. They were a band that definitely needed repeat listenings and shows to fully appreciate, as their music and presentation were so dense and layered it would be difficult for the casual observer to comprehend. One thing that was nice about their recordings is that they would always provide explanations for each of their songs, which cut through a lot of the abstractness and ambiguity and gave the songs a clear, deeper meaning. So few bands actually do this, so it is nice when a band lays it out like this, and this is a band that definitely benefited from this approach. Their songs had many noisy parts where the lyrics were spoken and buried in the sound, their song titles were cryptic, their drummer did most of the singing, and their songs were usually these huge orchestrated opuses that could sometimes sound like 5 or 6 songs put together. It was an overwhelming experience to see them play, but when we would tour with them, I would get into a groove and really start getting into their music. "

Eye for an Eye

Eye for an Eye began in 1988 as Jason Grotrian and Ravi Dhar playing guitars, Adam Doneas on bass, Thos Niles on drums, and Lloyd Stanley singing. By mid '89 Adam was gone and Kevin Norton was in. Ravi left before the year was up and the line stabilized for the lion's share of the band. We did what we did to have some fun and because we didn't know what else to do. By the time it was over Dean Baltulonis had joined on 2nd guitar. Out last show was at the 8 Ball Skate Park Somewhere, MA in the spring of 1991, but the cops shut it down before we played.


Omega Drone
100 Percent Unnatural


I think that the idea for Eulcid came about in 1996 when my friend Travis suggested that we play some music. My band splintered and his band piebald had been playing shows together here and there for several years at that point. It seemed like a good idea, but it took until the summer of 1997 to actually start to happen. We wrote the music to our first song on the evening before about 15 of our circle of friends were about to move to Boston from the Merrimack Valley. It was called "five months, ok" and would later appear on our demo. We were both excited to start, and the first week after the move to Boston began practicing with friend Kurt Ballou on drums.

Practices went regularly for the first month or so before scheduling problems began to take effect. Travis was in Piebald who were starting to really come into their own as an amazing band, and Kurt was finishing a class he needed to graduate as well as writing the final touches of his main band Converge's record "when forever comes crashing". Sometime around January Travis was replaced with former Kid Kilowatt drummer Matt Redmond, and Kurt moved to bass. This incarnation really only lasted two practices. I was nearly jumping out of my skin to get some songs out of my head and knowing Kurt would never be able to tour because of his other obligations former Splintered bass player Chris Raiche was recruited to fulfill the bass playing duties. Thus Eulcid really began in April of 1998.

The old line up left us with the shell of two songs and one complete one, but we wasted no time finishing these and adding two more to record our first demo with help from my roommate Steve Brodsky less than a month later on borrowed equipment. With four hundred copies of the demo pressed we played our first show back where it all started in the Merrimack Valley with Piebald. Every friend I could think of showed up to lend support. That summer four months after that we hit the road with the short lived and under appreciated "the never never" for ten shows and then six with the ire/cave in tour. It was amazing! The demos went fast and the shows were tremendous fun, I was broke from buying a van, but it was worth it. We all felt good to be in a band that was serious about creating music. A solo winter tour followed in December of 98 and "the crane ep" was released in March 99 on undecided records. Local shows, a jaunt to Canada with cave in, and more touring were to follow in the summer of 1999. This time the entire country rolled under the wheels of our van Mr. Bruno. With our roadie extraordinaire and professional napper Ryan Daniels (he slept through the entire state of Indiana) we played about 25 shows all around the U.S. Throughout this whole time though, one thought planted itself in my mind, that of our next record. When we returned home practicing became intense and sometimes shows were turned down in favor of practice time. Songs were being worked and reworked in my head, worked and reworked in practices, and then evaluated even more over and over again during my daily routine. Every factor was taken in to consideration that I could think of and every word labored over. Finally March 25th 2000 we began recording.

It seemed as though anything that could happen to make the process more difficult did. We had a terrible family emergency, the tape machine broke, I was sick, but all those months of preparation paid off, for the album was tracked and completed true to my vision of it! The Wind Blew All the Fires Out is something that was worked on for over a year, and consumed my life to a certain extent. But now when I sit here and think about all the work that went into it, the friendship the three of us have developed and the caring for our music it seems so easy. It seems easy to sit in a van for 15 hours, it seems easy to lose thousands of dollars, it seems easy to do twenty takes of a song in the studio until it is just right, and I guess most of all it seems easy to do it again. ( Mike Law. April, 2000)

Phleg Camp

Phleg Camp was a Canadian band whose music was clearly influenced by the Jesus Lizard, but whose stage show was not. One always felt very safe and secure at a Phleg Camp gig.

However, listening to the band’s only full-length release, the Steve Albini produced Ya’red Fair Scratch, I can’t help but notice how monstrously talented these guys were. Sean Dean, his bass deep and rumbling, hammered-out the foundation of the Phleg Camp sound—sloppy, confounding rhythm. Eric Chenaux, the guitarist/vocalist, added a layer of lazy, dissonant, post-hillbilly electric gee-tar jangle. With robotic precision, drummer Gavin Brown filled any remaining holes in the band’s wall of sound with pops of tightly-wound snare. Underneath it all: the muffled shouting of (mostly) indecipherable lyrics.

Aside from the Jesus Lizard (bass tone and bloozy guitar playing), other touchstones for the Phleg Camp sound include Nomeanso (bass tone and occasionally rhythm), Houses of the Holy-era Led Zeppelin (reverbed funkiness), the Coen Brothers (lyrics) and Fugazi (dissonance). The album closes with the band playing along to a ghettoblaster blasting the Neil Young song “Powderfinger.”

If this sounds appealing, buy a copy of the album. If you like what you hear, consider looking into some of the projects the musicians have been involved with since disbanding Phleg Camp in the mid-nineties: a veritable who’s who of the Queen Street West establishment, including Big Sugar and Hayden (Brown), Life Like Weeds and Crash Vegas (Chenaux), and the Sadies (Dean).

Then burn me a CD sampler. Queen Street West being part of Canada and all, I’ve always assumed its musical establishment was too “soft” for me to bother looking into.

David Sandström

David Sandstrom (born January 2, 1975) was the drummer for hardcore punk group Refused. His first solo release was called Om det inte hander nat innan imorgon sa kommer jag.. (If something doesn't happen before tomorrow, I will..). Om det is about David's grandfather, and was sung in Swedish. The second album, The Dominant Need of Needy Soul Is to Be Needed was released in 2004. His third album is Go Down! and was released in May 2005 under the name David Sandstrom Overdrive. In October 2008 the fourth album was released, titled Pigs Lose on Razzia Records.


This was a side project of Civ and Arthur who were previously in Gorilla Biscuits. The project is named after Civ's real name Anthony Civocelli. To date, the band has released two albums Set Your Goals in 1995 and Thirteen Day Getaway in 1998. Their first album included the radio hit "Can't Wait One Minute More". As of 2000, CIV is now on hiatus and there are no announcements if they may or may not reunite in the future.